"On the 150th anniversary of secession, the question of its legality becomes a matter of interest again. In my opinion as a historian, of the states that declared secession, only Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and Texas have a case, because of all the Confederate states, only those five were independent before they joined the Union.
Since they voluntarily joined the Union, perhaps they could voluntarily also leave the Union. All of the other Confederate states, including Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Florida, Arkansas and Louisiana, were not independent before they joined the Union.
They were federal territories before they were states. Having been created out of federal territory, they had less legal right to secede from the Union that created them. Most of the states that declared secession in 1860-1861 did not have the legal right to do so."
Daniel L. Haulman
Montgomery
Daniel L. Haulman
Montgomery
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I disagree. The fault in the thinking is assuming that the word "federal" in "federal territory" means "national" or common to all. The United States was not a singular national political entity until after 1865, and only became so through force of arms.
By the Constitution, the states that founded the Union set the process by which new states could be created and admitted to the Union. Those territories were created by the legislative branch as authorized under Article IV, Section 3.
Before Statehood, the territory must hold a referendum, demonstrating through popular sovereignty, that the joining with the Union is the will of a majority of inhabitants able to vote.
Before Statehood, the territory must hold a referendum, demonstrating through popular sovereignty, that the joining with the Union is the will of a majority of inhabitants able to vote.
Every state admitted to the Union held a ratification convention or held a referendum, and voluntarily joined the Union. The later states became cosignatories to a preexisting contract between equal sovereign political entities.
If the process is reversed, as in 1860-61, a state holds a people's convention to discuss secession, and if the eventual vote is for secession, then the people of that state, as sovereigns, voluntarily and peacefully withdraw from the Union.
If the process is reversed, as in 1860-61, a state holds a people's convention to discuss secession, and if the eventual vote is for secession, then the people of that state, as sovereigns, voluntarily and peacefully withdraw from the Union.
The language of "perpetual" union in the Articles of Confederation, and "a more perfect" union in the Constitution is often cited by nationalists to indicate that the Union was permanent (and by implication, involuntary).
"Perpetual" only means indefinite, or without any defined timeframe. "Perpetual" and "more perfect Union" say nothing about voluntary or involuntary nature of the compact between states.
"Perpetual" only means indefinite, or without any defined timeframe. "Perpetual" and "more perfect Union" say nothing about voluntary or involuntary nature of the compact between states.
The whole national theory falls apart with a look at the text of the Constitution and its ratification. Article VII of the Constitution only calls for 9 States to ratify the Constitution to create a new Union.
Not all 13.
If 9 ratify, only 9 join. The other States are in no way obligated to join the Union. Only 11 of the 13 states ratified the Constitution initially.
North Carolina was an independent sovereign nation, that is, not one of the United States, between New York's ratification in July 1788, and North Carolina's ratification in November 1789. The coexistence was peaceful. There was no military strife. There was no coercion from the neigboring "united" States.
Rhode Island was likewise independent until May 1790.
The timeline of the formation of the 13 State Union is today not clear to even those with a decent knowledge of history.
Not all 13.
If 9 ratify, only 9 join. The other States are in no way obligated to join the Union. Only 11 of the 13 states ratified the Constitution initially.
North Carolina was an independent sovereign nation, that is, not one of the United States, between New York's ratification in July 1788, and North Carolina's ratification in November 1789. The coexistence was peaceful. There was no military strife. There was no coercion from the neigboring "united" States.
Rhode Island was likewise independent until May 1790.
The timeline of the formation of the 13 State Union is today not clear to even those with a decent knowledge of history.
The point? A "nation" was not founded in 1788. A "federation" of States was created. Every state or territory voluntarily joined the Union. Normative contract law, known to attorneys and legislators at local, state, and federal law, indicates that voluntary contracts and compacts between equal parties can be dissolved or changed by voluntary withdrawl by one of the parties (unless otherwise specified and agreed to by such party in the contract).
In Summary:
In Summary:
Each new state was equal in legal standing to the original ratifying states.
Each State joined the Union voluntarily, through defined process.
No specific clause of the Constitution speaks to illegality of secession, only that the timeframe of the compact between states is indefinite.
The Constitution between the States is like a contract between legally equal entities.
Therefore, normative English and American contract law allows secession of a State from the Union.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
Each State joined the Union voluntarily, through defined process.
No specific clause of the Constitution speaks to illegality of secession, only that the timeframe of the compact between states is indefinite.
The Constitution between the States is like a contract between legally equal entities.
Therefore, normative English and American contract law allows secession of a State from the Union.
Quod erat demonstrandum.


